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The Washington Post is saying the Cops were sent their to protect the flowers.
Cops trampling the flowers in Boston they were sent to protect. Weird how flowers have civil rights now, but protestors don’t. Pictures are worth a thousand fucking words. This needs to be disseminated through social media sites.
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Well maybe since corporations are now people…so are flowers…..
If the Rose Kennedy Greenway Conservancy gave Occupy Boston permission to be there, how can the police arrest people for trespassing??
They dont own the park, they just care for it? I believe the state owns the land, the Dept of Transportation.
The protestors had an understanding with the Rose Kennedy Greenway Conservancy not to damage the landscaping/plantings to which they agreed. The Boston Police Department didn’t have any such understanding with the Rose Kennedy Greenway Conservancy so the Boston Police simply strode upon and stood atop the plantings. See: http://www.flickr.com/photos/safesounds/6233855762/in/set-72157627743790407/
The shills are out accusing you guys of damaging the grounds. Best get a response up quick
YES. Please explain why you were there, why the police were overreacting, that you were being reasonable and not inciting anything.
It’s crucial. I know, I know–it’s public space and you’re the public and right to protest and all that but they will grab the simplest line that OB was being unreasonable, provoking them, destroying public property and so on.
Get up a clear simple story about this for the people who don’t understand what’s going on but are still on your side. That’s an organizing principle 101, I think–you think about the people who should be supporting you and how to talk to them rather than assuming that everyone totally gets everything lying in the background politically. I.e., you talk to the 99%. There is huge support right now, it should be really easy to explain it. E.g., ‘it was the least disruptive place…’ ‘We ran out of room where we were…’ ‘We had permission to be there…’ ‘We had assured them we would restore the area to its original condition…’
Or whatever. I’m sure you can figure out something better. Don’t just scream about how they lie.
If you have any hard evidence the protesters were damaging the plant bed please present it here
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Nice job BPD, the tax-paying residents of Boston applaud you!
speak for yourself. You guys aren’t the only ones in the 99%. I am too, and it’s deplorable because you represent no one but yourselves. Let’s face it, the protestors aren’t the 99%, they are the <.001%. This movement has no relative traction and is degenerating into a abhorrent mess of lawbreakers who can't stop whining about police intervention (you like to call it "brutality") when they are in clear violation of the law and have been warned.
Personally, I realize that we need banks in this developed society. Where would you be if it weren't for an expansion of credit (retraction is the cylical counterpart, but you, yes you, and everyone else helped the expansion… don't take a 300,000 mortgage if you know you cant pay it back!). If you want to make a difference, don't engage in altercations with the police (even peaceful ones, resistance is a form of confrontation). If you want to make a difference, close all your bank accounts and hold just cash (you will show them darn'd banks!).
But lets be honest, you need the banks more than you know… you're just upset that you don't have the biggest cake. You could (A) give way to the mob mentality and express misdirected anger at things (the police), or (B) get back to work and try try try again.
@Peter I think enough Americans are tired of ‘try try try’ when policies are just getting worse, effecting us all to the point trying the same old system isn’t good enough.
Peter, you are so brainwashed. Why don’t you head down to an occupation and get a taste of reality!!! It will be amazing, I promise!!
Agree! Now flush the rest of them out of Dewey Square. I want the food trucks and farmers market back. Why can’t Occupy Boston go to another neighborhood? Franklin Field has a lot of space.
the food truck and farmers market are both still there. they haven’t been hurt by the occupation.
@Peter: No one’s asking YOU to face anything, but if anyone else is reading your comments and wondering if there’s any truth to them, here are some actual facts:
You are terribly off base when you say that the protesters represent less than “.001%” of Americans. Here’s the fact: A national poll by leading poll-taker Rasmussen finds that 70% of American adults agree with the protest’s primary slogan: “The big banks got bailed out, while we got left behind”. The protesters actually represent the opinion of a large majority of Americans.
You said, “This movement has no relative traction…” Fact: The protest has been growing daily, and similar protests have been springing up daily all around the country. That is the definition of “gaining traction.” Period.
You said the protest “is degenerating into a abhorrent mess of lawbreakers who can’t stop whining about police intervention…when they are in clear violation of the law and have been warned.” Fact: There has been no such mess of lawbreakers–not even the police claim otherwise. The police did not attempt to break up the protest because protesters were behaving violently, noisily, rudely, aggressively, or in any other way abhorrently. The pretext for the Boston arrests was that the protesters didn’t have the right to occupy that particular location because of certain flowers that were planted there (You can’t make this stuff up! Here’s a pic of a BPD officer trampling the plants he was there to protect: http://bit.ly/r1tw7f ).
You said, “Personally, I realize that we need banks in this developed society.” The protesters agree with you on this! Additionally, the protesters believe that banks are not more valuable than American citizens, banks must not be above the law, and banks must not be allowed to profiteer by preying upon vulnerable Americans.
You said, “don’t take a 300,000 mortgage if you know you cant [sic] pay it back!” Trust me; if there’s a .0001% at the protest, it’s the percentage of protesters who took a $300,000 mortgage knowing they couldn’t pay it back! I’m kind of glad you said it, though, because it goes a long way towards illustrating that if you even are in the 99%, you’re pretty much a willing mouthpiece for the 1%. Most Americans now understand that the mortgage default crisis has a lot more to do with immoral, greedy, unpatriotic bankers who skirted the edges of the law, but abandoned decency utterly, in order to prey upon hard-working citizens, whose dreams of home-ownership (the American dream, after all), previous trust in financial institutions, and lack of formal, financial education made them easy targets.
You said, “If you want to make a difference, don’t engage in altercations with the police (even peaceful ones, resistance is a form of confrontation).” Where do I start with that one? Are you even American??!! Oh my goodness! If everyone were like you we’d be bowing to Queen Elizabeth and people would be naming their kids “Benedict” after a Colonial hero. Seriously, let’s just quote the U.S. Constitution on this one, which guarantees “the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”
You said, “you need the banks more than you know.” Fact: The protesters already know we need the banks. This is the crux of the problem. We need the banks and we need them to be HONEST so that we can have CONFIDENCE in them. The protesters are not opposed to banks. Once again, the protesters are opposed to immoral banking practices that destroy democracy and tear at the foundations of our wonderful nation.
You said, “you’re just upset that you don’t have the biggest cake. Fact: The protesters are opposed to unmitigated greed. They dream the American dream and, by and large, don’t feel any need to be the richest guy on the block (unlike bankers and Wall Street types). The protesters are not upset that they don’t have the biggest cake. The protesters are absolutely furious that corrupt financial institutions feel the need to take every last little crumb of cake away from very hard-working citizens. The protesters don’t want the biggest cake. Not even close. They just want a fair-sized little piece of a cake they themselves helped to bake.
You said, “You could (A) give way to the mob mentality and express misdirected anger at things (the police), or (B) get back to work and try try try again.” Fact: There are a lot more than 2 possibilities in every situation, but presenting two false choices that leads people to a “lesser of two evils” is an effective way to hide the real problem and the real means of change. When special interests and corrupt financial institutions are destroying our democracy from the inside out, the answer is neither to antagonize the police nor to plod through life like sheep, unwilling to step up and defend our country. One actual answer is to protest in accordance with our Constitutional rights, and to refuse to shut up and take it in silence anymore.
If you choose to shut up and take it, that’s your right. Hopefully there will be enough of us that we’ll still win the fight despite not having all the 99%-ers with us.
WTG Hendry.. nice post & well said!
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OccupyBoston says police were in full riot gear. The photos show police in their ordinary uniforms, no helmets or shields.
They, (The Boston Police) clearly have riot gear with them in almost all most cases these pictures show that almost every cop has a riot helmet and other riot equipment such as pads strapped to their utility belt.. (look closely) The Fact that that did not wear them speaks to the civility of the protestors who were non-violent and did not resist arrest… get a clue! if this was Europe they would have needed 2-3x the cops and they all would have had to wear their riot gear for fear of injury from thrown bricks or gas-cocktails. These police are lucky they work in Boston and not Athens, Barcelona or Paris! As for the claim that the protestors were in an unapproved area of the Greenway…. Their numbers swelled over the past few days and there was no room for them to stay only in Dewey Square so they had to have some of their numbers expand the encampment in the adjacent square immediately North along the Greenway. In fact, restricting the protestors to only Dewey Square is a huge mistake because of the amount of foot traffic at rush hour that passes through the area immediately outside Station. In order for safety concerns to have been met the Boston Police would have had to expand the area that the protestors were allowed in in order to avoid severe congestion and likely traffic and pedestrian accidents outside of South Station… Thus, allowing the protestors to expand northward along the greenway and away from South Station is the logical solution. There were no Anarchists or significant vandalisms (unless it was conducted by agent provocateurs) and the BPD was simply creating an excuse to crack down on the protestors. Boston should be ashamed…..
No that clearly must not be full-face shield riot helmets these two BPD officers are wearing… it’s their party hats!
That’s funny. Those look suspiciously like helmets in the pictures. And I’m pretty sure “Officers dressed in black and equipped with plastic handcuffs surrounded part of the camp” is a fair description of the officers in the photos.
what are you smoking? I looked very carefully at the pics and saw not helmets…
Hanging off their belts, opposite those nice 3-foot long billy clubs. Those aren’t riot gear helmets? Cuz they certainly aren’t flowers.
I don’t see any police wearing helmets…I’ve seen more intimidating crowd control at Red Sox play off games.
Yes! the stuff I am smoking must be awesome…apparently it can make you see that same stuff I do…are you really that stupid or maybe you are legally blind? That might explain a lot.
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Yeah! Give em the HOSE!!
1) Powerful photos! You might consider juxtaposing them with shots of the bankers and plutocrats whose orders the police take in this country. Those are the people who should be ashamed to show their faces in public.
2) The Occupy movement has a higher approval rating than congress right now, which is to say, the iron is hot. How about calling for an all-inclusive national strike some day next week?
Hard for people to support you when you have no objective other than raising awareness. Mission accomplished. Now what do you want? What will end this? My guess is that most of the people there have no clue how to answer.
While you complain about your “rights” being infringed, how about obtaining a permit to protest? You are currently assembled illegally, using taxpayer-funded (that’s me) electricity. You should be thankful the police have stayed away this long.
Bottom line – it seems like your cause, like our country, is lacking leadership.
A leader? Like Gandhi! or maybe John Lennon!… Oh!, I know! maybe JFK or RFK could step up…. you following me here? Or are you just that stupid? Leadership = decapitation
Did you read my reply? I may want to support you, but I don’t know what you want. What is the objective? Do you even know?
OK so the vast majority that has been screwed for three decades is supposed to have the simple solution to a world wide mess caused by ‘leaders’ ready-to-go … Read the Declaration of the Occupation of New York City – the problems are many. Read the 15 points at October2011.org. Maybe you like the 12 word platform: 1. End All Wars 2. Healthcare For All 3. Jobs For All. Of course, Revoke Corporate Personhood and Restore American Democracy is required to create any real ‘change we can believe in’ – you know – the kind of change we can actually see.
I think the 99% refers to the percentage of protesters that have no idea what they are protesting or who are financing them. I can’t seem to find any info on what their goals are. It’s good to shake things up to try to get the bureaucrats attention, but be informed of who is actually behind your actions.
Maybe you should wake up a do a little research. “Dealmom”
Love it how no one uses their real names on these comments.
Real people who are not afraid to stand up for what they believe in are not afraid of who they are because they know they are right. There is a huge wealth of info available on exactly what the protestors are protesting and what their goals are… and if you haven’t figured it out by now maybe you are watching too much main stream media & have no capacity for free thought. So, good luck with that.
So enlighten me Jason, as opposed to telling me to read it elsewhere. What is YOUR objective? Can you answer that? Do you have one?
It’s all right here in the official declaration:
seems pretty clear to me!
doh! try again:
The police aren’t wearing masks, which is very new.
Pay close attention to this, as it’s very important. Previously, cops would wear face-concealing masks, helmets and other stuff to protect their identity. They’d also wear heavy body armor, helmets and carry riot gear. Not only does all that gear take a long time to put on, it’s annoying to wear, and by the time you get to the site, you WANT to beat the snot out of someone. And all that gear makes it possible to tear people up with total anonymity and physical protection.
I see in the pictures, that they had helmets and stuff, but they weren’t wearing it. That means they’re going to be a lot more polite, restrained and professional. It means the officers are now putting skin in the game. You can look them in the eye and see their faces. You can make a connection to them. And if they behave badly, they have no protection from being held to account.
Pay attention to this. It means that law enforcement-in Boston at least-is listening to social scientists on how to safely and effectively manage protestors, and so long as they keep this up, we have an excellent chance of getting what we want.
Don’t stop, don’t give up. But carry on knowing that the cops in Boston are going to be a little fairer, a little more polite, and a LOT more restrained than if they had their identity concealed.
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ROTHSCHILD’S ILLUMINATI WILL FAIL.. JESUS FOR PRESIDENT! 🙂
For those who know the kingdoms of this world are not of our own….
8 Again, the devil took him-(Jesus) to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor. 9 “All this I will give you,” he said, “if you will bow down and worship me.”
10 Jesus said to him, “Away from me, Satan! For it is written: ‘Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only.’[e]”
Jesus says -“No servant can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and Money.” – Luke 16:13
Could we get an account to what happened directly before the roll up of the cops? As with the new version of flash mobs turning into flash robberies, this movement can quite quickly turn into a riot. Is this suppose to be like Egypt? where we want them to try to shut down our internet? marshal law boston? here have the rocket launcher of peace so you can remove the brutality of someones personal vehicle on the road.
Something sparked the police, someone did something. Just like the news report of the “Officer using too much force in a high school” the fight was brought and the BPD responded.
Yes its a horrible thing when violence happens at any level but please be a bit more clear and look at both sides with knowledge rather than malice.
My question is where is the report from the BPD? How about a non-biased report from someone there when it happened first? Just telling me “They just went at it” sounds like someone wants to start a violent rebellion against the government than a report of what happened.
A group of protesters set up tents and occupied a part of the greenway adjacent to the existing encampment. The BPD announced that they were tresspassing and illegally assembled and must leave. The protesters did not leave but instead remained in a peaceful, civil manner. The BPD responded by arrested those who remained and disposing of their tents and other property on the piece of land in question.
You morons were told to leave. You think you can provoke the police by disobeying their orders and not expect a response? Grow up! From what I can see you’re all a bunch of mindless followers with nothing better to do with your lives. God help us!
I hear you Tea Bagger……so now STFU!
What complete piece of twoddle “At 1:30 this morning hundreds of police in full riot gear brutally attacked Occupy Boston”.
Your own pictures clearly show police officers in normal attire.
Anyone arrested was arrested becuase they failed to comply with a lawful request to disperse – if you were dumb enough to argue with the cops – when ” hundreds of police in full riot gear” show up – then you got what you deserved. The police dont just randomly attack people – those “attacked” must have resisted arrested – again a totally dumb thing to do.
You cause maybe nobel – but its undermined by your total stupidity and naive “reporting”
Every police officer each had a fully appointed riot helmet strapped to their utility belt in addition to their side arm, a tazer, and a 3-foot riot billy club. In addition they had riot padding on (mainly knee pads) or inside the riot gear packs they also held on their belts which also likely contains canisters of mace/peper-spray . While they were not actually wearing full riot gear nor using mace, clubs or tasers, they clearly came fully prepared. Bottom line is, the fact that they didn’t use the riot gear speaks to the, cooperation, civility and non-violent behavior of the protestors. I work with Boston police regularly doing detail work and the attire/equipment that they wore for this action is far from “normal”. Perhaps you should do al little more research before you accuse others, who are clearly very well informed, of being totally stupid and naive. On that note I applaud both the protestors and the BPD for not allowing this to escalate completely out of control. I am sure that both sides showed both honor and restraint. However, the occupation must continue…
You should fire more than one brain cell at a time, “The police dont just randomly attack people”
Are you like a troll from the BPD? Do you live on the same planet as the rest of us?
The police do just mess with people and yes they had full riot gear, do you not see the 3 foot long billy clubs and helmets hanging off their person? What about the preparation they put in to arresting 141 people? Do you see how many paddy wagons there are?
Police don’t randomly harass people for no reason…http://thedailywh.at/2011/10/13/corruption-scandal-of-the-day/
The police dont just randomly attack people
cool pics bro. i wanna see more. got any of people getting tazed? those are the best
Tell you what Shane. If you have any balls… Head on down there and join them….I expect you might fail to show self restraint and then maybe BPD will Taze you bro we can grab some pics of it to post! They didn’t get tazed or clubbed because they were demonstrating peaceably and didn’t resist arrest. Or are you just trying to sound like a callous dumb-ass?
Yo where dem taze pics at?
Come on down Shane and Matt!
Despicable that the police forces all over the country are being used to harass, injure, and intimidate peaceful protestors. Our right to address the wrong doings of our government is guaranteed by the Constitution. Where are the arrests of the grand thieves of Wall Street and the Banks?
The General Assembly of the Occupiers would no doubt be perfectly willing to consider moving the occupation to another location sanctioned by the BPD. To my knowledge no such location has been offered or granted when requests have been made. They are asserting their 1st amendment rights in the best way they know how and in the place that makes the most sense to them. If the Mayor’s office has a better suggestion we are all ears.
You gotta admit, there are a lot of clowns down there, acting like they have some interest in advancing the cause of the middle class, but have no true intentions of doing anything but causing problems. Half of these demonstartors have never even worked a full time job, never had to pay a mortgage, or even a damn car payment. They have been spoon fed by Mommy and Daddy, they went of to college, they default on the school loans, and talk about working class- middle America like they are part of it, NOT! they are just a bunch of lazy ass, “entitled” kids, talking about what they want, but don’t want to work for. Get a Freekin Job, and stop acting like you should have a new BMW and a 500K home, just because you are here. Try another country in Africa, South America or the Middle East, see how well you can live as a deadbeat, No work, no food, no home, no life…
Our Grandfathers had to work for everything they got. AND they paid thier bills.
There are plenty of hardworking people who have lost thier jobs, and even thier homes, notice that they are not “camping” in Dewey Square, they are out fighting for survival, trying to get a job, and PAY THIER BILLS!. These college kids are dreamers and schemers. All talk, no solutions. Go home, and get a job. Sooner or later, Daddys gonna have to shut you off!
Sorry, Shawn but you need to get a clue….maybe do some more reading or educate yourself beyond the main stream so you have a deeper comprehension of what exactly is happening. FYI I made 6-figures this year and, I have paid-off all student loans, my home and 2 cars and I work simply because I enjoy it not because I need the money.. However, that said, I completely support the movement and maybe you should reconsider your position and really do some research before you spout your garbage. We are both part of the 99% … you just seem like one of the confused 99%ers who has been made brain dead by the corrupt system we all have been supporting like zombies for the past few decades. Please try to wake up… I recommend you read what Hendry had to say; a good analysis of this situation for confused folks like yourself, so take a read: http://occupyboston.com/2011/10/11/images-from-the-takedown/#comment-3033
Meant to post this as a reply, i dont think this person thought i was replying to them. If you read some comments on other occupy pages, boston included, theres plenty of people who are saying “keep resisting, keep it up, dont give up for those of us who cant be there due to us having to work 40-60 hour weeks just to survive.” That wools gotta be makin your eyes itch,huh? Or do you choose not read anything that doesnt fit your narrative or ideologies? You cant fit the struggles and frustrations of mankind into a neat little black & white box.
Cheers from florida OB! Give em hell beantown!
Check the comments on some of the other pages. “keep it up, keep resisting for those of us who cant because were working 50-60 hours a week just to survive.” Isnt that wool over your eyes gettin itchy?
Boston is a graet city to work in, to live in, and to explore. so much history here. the people who are camping in Dewey square, do not live in, or work in Boston. They may very well be students here. If you look at the pictures, or any of the news reports, you can see that “most” are simply young college age people. Some who have a legitimate concern,and some who just want to hang out with the mob, smoke some weed, and play modern day hippie. This is going nowhere. Its, time to go home, go back to class, or go back to work. If you don’t like the ways things are going in America, find a candidate with your vision, with your supposed interest in mind, and support that candidate. Get your political reform through the vote, not through “camping and complaining” its just juvenile..
“Its, time to go home, go back to class, or go back to work. ”
And if you don’t have a home, can’t afford school and cannot find work? What then?
I am part of Occupy Boston. I live in Cambridge. I work at a job in Boston. I pay my bills. I pay taxes. I vote. I am not a communist. I do not want to overthrow the government. I am part of this movement.
It’s not a protest about Boston; it’s a protest about America being held in the New England’s biggest city. You say “they don’t live in Boston” as if they’re a bunch of carpetbaggers, or something? I live in Malden. My office is in Cambridge. Am I not allowed to protest in the state capital because I live in a town 5-miles away and my boss happened to locate our office across the river? I don’t get it…
Most of our candidates don’t envision anything but money. Corporate influence, i.e. payoff, corrupts the vote. That’s what this whole thing is about: we aren’t heard in politics anymore.
I’ve never smoked weed a day in my life, I am a recent graduate working 50-hour weeks to pay the bills, and I am at Occupy Boston every moment that I can be.
It’s growing every day. We have a higher approval rating than Congress. And with all the comments above, why do you insist on trolling?
I was watching a report the other night, and the demonstrator they were interviewing in Dewey Square, was talking about “corporate greed” and how these “executives make too much money” She had her I-Phone, and an I-Pad next to her. The reporter asked her about the appearance of hipocracy: “How could you spend a thousand dollars between those two high tech, digital wonders, all the while supporting one of the wealthiest corporations in America, Apple” she answered that she could not possibly live without her digital friends.
So, while she is down with big money corporations, she’ll still buy thier goods. WTF.
If you are educated enough to earn a high paying, corporate job, are you gonna say no, please don’t pay me a large salary, keep your money? I think not.
The hipocracy of this movement is just so obvious. Most everyone down there demonstrating, is getting by just fine. Or they wouldn’t be down there hanging out. they’d be banging on doors, trying to get a job. What a bunch of BS.
Its funny how so many of these kids willingly try to look like protesters of old but instead of bringing the stink of no showers and lots of love (amongst other things) they bring ipods/ipads/iphones and the 100+ dollar a month fee’s that go with it all. What do we call them? Yuppies? nope they are their children. Hippies? they don’t have the same ideals.
Maybe there should be a parallel movement with people who actually know what they are doing.
They aren’t protesting “things”, they are protesting corporations’ influence on the US government.
Having a cell phone at a protest does not make them hypocrites.
We’re not protesting large salaries, or even corporations in general. We’re protesting fiscal irresponsibility. We’re protesting the practice of rewarding CEOs of companies that would have failed had the government not bailed them out with millions in bonuses the same year they crippled the United States economy.
Apple did not destroy the economy. Apple made good products and as a result made a lot of money off them, ethically. Please, think before speaking.
Jeff, you do have concerns, as do I, I live in a suburb just outside of Boston also, I also work, pay taxes, pay a mortgage, vote, and know what a struggle it is to make ends meet, everyday. I am concerned for all who struggle. I know there are folks who can not find work, or a decent affordable home, and struggle much harder than I.
My point is, they are not camping in Dewey Square!
This movement is a farse. Its just headlines, with no substance.
What are the solutions? thats what needs to be told.
Eeverybody knows the problems, Damn, thats the easy part. Anybody can complain.
Very few of us are public policy professionals. The problems of the US economy and US political system are complex. Elected representatives are the policy makers, not the people that vote them in. The people that vote them in are supposed to express to them what their concerns and desires are. This is what is happening in Dewey Sq. The elected officials are then supposed to use their policy expertise to create solutions. Right now Washington is not living up to it’s side of this arrangement.
The people actually SLEEPING and CAMPING in Dewey Sq are merely those who have the desire, means and opportunity, for whatever reason, to do so. They are not the entirety of the movement. They do not represent the movement as a whole. The movement isn’t a camp-out – it’s a voicing of greivances by the vast majority of middle-class and working class Americans.
“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”
Here is something that may help you:
“and men have preferred darkness to light because their deeds were evil”
i’m sorry guys, I completely was with what you were going for until the past couple of days. It seems as if this now largely unorganized program is looking for reasons to get into these kinds of situations. Once flooding into property that was blatantly off limits and telling protesters to put PREGNANT WOMEN AND CHILDREN on the front lines started I have lost a good amount of respect. Remember the right to own property does exist and trespassing into people’s homes/property and disrupting traffic making it difficult for emergency vehicles to get through is obviously taking it a bit too far. There has to be a better way to do this. Cities have been more than grateful in letting you occupy them but it’s pushing the simple right you have to protest that will get you into these situations. I’d like to point out that their is also minimal news coverage and instances like this will continue to cause people to not take you seriously.
Tried earlier to respond to this mis-informed comment by Erin a few times but none of my post have gone through on this thread. Hope I didnt multi-post. Trying this brief reply to see if it goes into the thread.
Erin, you comments are really surprising. Remember it’s an “occupation” (kind of like what the US is doing in Afghanistan and Iraq – disorganized, uncomfortable and unpleasant for both sides but supposedly to affect change for the better and for a more sustainable future – so we are just following the lead of the US Government! – thanks Uncle Sam!). The occupy Boston movement had grown too large for the small area BPD allocated and they needed additional room for participants to camp and protest. They tried to negotiate in good faith with all stakeholders in order to get permission for the expanded encampment further north along the Greenway and I certainly know that this confrontation was not planned on the part of the protestors (this was the last thing that they wanted to have happen). I would venture to guess that BPD, MA State Police, DHS and the MA governor & Boston mayors offices likely put much more planning into what happened at ~1-2am this morning than the protestors.
Veterans for Peace were on the front lines (not women and children) but yes women and children did link arms with the 2nd camp protestors encircling the encampment in solidarity before the police moved in. They were civil, obedient and peaceful.. You were looking for something different? Maybe you should have enough respect for our constitution, bill of rights, for yourself and the protestors to join them or at least continue to support and contribute to the cause…..first turn off the main stream media pundits on TV and do some real research…thank you.
[…] to the Boston Globe, over 100 were arrested that night (the images from the raid can be seen here and […]
WHERE IS THE POLICE BRUTALITY IN THESE PICS? You mean the images of people that resisted in getting off the area they asked you to move from multiple times. HOW DARE YOU INSULT THE BPD AND DEFAME THEIR CHARACTER YOU HIPPIES..
Yo fuck hippies
Jason, simply because I do not believe the same thing as you does not mean i’m mis-informated by any means. I have reviewed all of the information that has been given and decided my side, this by no means makes me less intelligent then you.
Also many mainstream media stations are not biased in anyway towards whats going on, the ones that do actually give it any recognition simply explain the events that occurred. I have been down to the occupy site a few times, have talked to people there extensively. Last night I was following the occupy tweets, texting friends who were down there, following the facebook postings and also watching the live stream. I have done my research and i’m sorry that it is actually possible for a group of intelligent and informed people to disagree.
so a lot of people keep asking what is the motive for the protesters? so here is my view on it! we live in a democracy/ capitalistic/ socialist country and the capitalism and socialism are shutting out the democracy and the voice of the people all while bankers and politicians are monopolizing america and taking every last dime from the working man! now what the protesters want, at least what i feel like they want, is to be treated like human beings to have a say in the politics and to balance democracy against capitalism and socialism so that the Obama health care doesn’t happen again, despite the fact over 60% of Americans voted NO he passed it anyways. the protesters aren’t trying to over throw the government or take down american banks, all we want is a fair economy.
now another question asked is why are all these HIPPIES calling police brutality and saying that we hate the cops and the media? the answer is very clear and easy to find, it sits right in front of our faces everyday looking us in the eyes, the news, the TV, the internet, all used to try and persuade viewers to think nothing of the protest and to keep on with there lives. the news needs the politicians so they can stay working and get the news so they will try to persuade people to look away from the protest and they say they hate cops and police brutality not because they hit them but because they abused the protesters rights. it says in the constitution the people have the right to protest public locations and when the cops mace you or beat you to your near death just because your walking to close that’s when people begin to notice that is why this has way more media coverage and is picking up strength is cause the moment police attacked people started listening and its the cops who have practically helped the moment, intentionally or not, they helped. we are trying to get the word out and the only place you can find true media and coverage is on you tube, break, etc. any social website for video distribution because they cant tamper with that footage so if you want to hear about whats going on go to the OWS website or look up peoples opinions on you tube or Facebook because it is the social generation and with a little bit of communication a message can go a long way!
“if we don’t follow the constitution then it has no more meaning than an average piece of paper”
I support OWS, and the other movements across the country, but i feel like my IQ just dropped reading all of this. There is no point in arguing with people who can only call you names. Just ignore their comments and focus on our cause.
[…] A video of the scene can be viewed at the top of this article. Photos of the arrests on Flikr and Occupy Boston. […]
I know alot of people are curious as to what solutions OWS has to offer…Here is a link to a living online forum, where you can vote on points to be changed that will be presented to congress. Check it out…vote….live.
Why only 9 facing charges, should charge all the lawbreakers.
At what point do you admit peaceful protests have failed and start fighting… change happens when those in charge feel genuin fear for their existance.
Agressive/violent/destructive/non-civil tactics (“days of rage”-style actions, etc) would, in my opinion, be destructive to the developing movement and remove any moral authority the individual protester has. That sort of thing can poison and cripple a movement like that.
These people are just asking for a better world and an end to poverty, hunger, greed, corruption etc. In the only way they can. If u don’t agree with that you need help. The humanity on display is incredibly heartening and fascinating. If your feeling negativity you have a severe problem with your outlook. There is no threat to anyone on the planet here with good in their heart. A.n. Atheist.
Treating this movement like some sort of religious crusade is counter productive. You claim to want a better world, then get someone you know unemployed a job. If you can’t get them one, create one. Give them housing if needed and transport for that job. That is what needs to be done. Create the jobs, get them to the jobs, leave the job to them. Don’t romanticize everything about this like a modern day Robin Hood, the end will be only crippling to our way of life.
Don’t question my morals. I never said I didnt agree with many of the main points that they have been attempting to make, the thing I disagree with is how they are going about it. My neighborhood is beginning to be vandalized by this movement now, it’s just getting ridiculous. .
I think Rose Kennedy would not want police beating up people speaking out for freedom from tyranny, etc. etc. Boston cops should feel very ashamed!!!!!
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